[allan40alt]

Andrew, who sells LEDs on Amazon, has ordered a quantity of these white LEDs in AMBER and they may be suitable for our rear turn indicators (NOT FOR THE FRONT THOUGH!).

Not suitable as the PY21W has offset pins.


I'll look for a 581 LED Amber.

<strike>The AMBER version should be here for the 3rd week of October.</strike>

I'll update when he sends me further info.

Al.

PS: I'm getting a pair of the RED andwhen they arrive I'll test them in the rear fog light to see if that improves..... <strike>and also in the rear turn indicator because if they work in red, then they will work in amber.</strike>




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[molinari]

Allan you should post a video on YouTube showing how to dismount the rear lights housing. I gave up after a first attempt, fearing to damage the housing

 

[allan40alt]

...I'll post a couple of pictures when I get the new LEDs.

Al.

 

[allan40alt]

I've found these alternatives but I have not tried them:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/30W-AMBER-CANBUS-ERROR-FREE-CREE-PY21W-581-BAU15s-LED-CAR-TURN-SIGNAL-LIGHT-BULB-/111085671065?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19dd38d299




PS: Not cheap though at £14.99 per LED!!




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[allan40alt]

The supplier of our 'Stop' lights has placed some of the PY21W Amber equivalent LEDs on order.

It should only take about 4 weeks for them to arrive.

Al.

 

[allan40alt]

Allan you should post a video on YouTube showing how to dismount the rear lights housing. I gave up after a first attempt, fearing to damage the housing

This the method as posted in the 'Stop Light' thread.

Access is exactly the same except you change the Amber bulb:



As promised here are some 'help you' photos for changing the rear lights:
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<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">First open the small access cover on the side of the boot interior. This will reveal a small 3 cornered retaining nut that you unscrew. BE CAREFUL that you don't let it slip from your fingers!!
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<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Next push gently on the retaining bolt you removed the nut from and the rear housing pulls away a little from the body.
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<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">It only pulls away a little and you need to press the small clip on the side of the power plug. This will allow the plug to come out and free the housing. NB: In the handbook it shows removing the plug prior to sliding off the lens housing. I found it easier to do it as above.
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<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">UPDATE: Just to the left of my pointer tip there is a very small button. I found it very easy to press this and release the plug prior to freeing the lens housing.
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<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Remove the foam cover.
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<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Release the side clips (easy to use your fingers). There are just 2 clips (opposite each other).
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<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Tease off the centre plate (you may need to gently prise one side as you pull).
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<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Remove the bulb and replace with the new LED.
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<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Then it's just a simple job to replace everything.
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<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Al.

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[molinari]

almost affordable:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-30W-Bau15s-150-7507-PY21W-High-Power-CREE-LED-Turn-Signal-Light-Bulb-Amber-/321103864268?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ac34821cc&vxp=mtr

 

[allan40alt]

Yes, but unfortunately you may have to add load resistors.

I'm looking forward to testing the AJW ones.

If they perform as well as their stop light LEDs then they should be good.

Al.

 

[molinari]

hi Allan

has AJW sent the amber bulbs to you?

 

[allan40alt]

He's added them to his next order which is due in around the 1st December.

If we don't get any 'faulty bulb' show or 'rapid flashing' they should project a good, strong amber light

Hope so as I'm not messing with load resistors. They're easy enough to connect to the wiring but I'm just not happy about that kind of modification as they do get very hot; especially where flashers are concerned if you have them on for a time.

The heat builds up and up as they don't have time to cool so with them switched on as emergency flashers there is a danger of them causing damage.

Al.

 

[allan40alt]

Just checked with Andrew and it doesn't look like he'll be getting delivery until the New Year.

Never mind, there's no rush.

Al.

 

[molinari]

It looks like prices of 1565 cree led-based bulbs begin to fall

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-1156-BA15S-12V-24V-CREE-CANBUS-AMBER-5-SMD-TURN-INDICATOR-LED-CAR-LIGHT-BULB-/310796894269?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item485cf0403d&vxp=mtr

 

[molinari]

Even on Amazon UK - unfortunately for me only shipping to the UK

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Can-Bus-Super-bright-Amber-Indicator-Signal/dp/B00G4HBGXS/ref=sr_1_4?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1389275579&sr=1-4&keywords=1156+cree+amber

 

[allan40alt]

The BA15S is not suitable for the rear indicators as they have opposite pins.

We need the BAU15S which has off-set pins.




PS: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/50w-AMBER-CANBUS-ERROR-FREE-CREE-PY21W-581-BAU15s-LED-CAR-TURN-SIGNAL-LIGHT-BULB/111245823964?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D3997913063020752063%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D111085671065%26



NB: Although these are CanBus they do give a warning that some vehicles may still need resistors.





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[jonnyg30]

any updates on the indicator bulbs?? it's the only set im waiting to buy (apart from reverse but i want to see the housing for myself in hope i can make some further improvements)

 

[allan40alt]

I'm awaiting a reply as I type.

Al.

 

[allan40alt]

Just had a reply:

Do you know what quantities you will be requiring? I will place a special order
to get them in as we still have quite a lot of stock.

I'm am happy to
make a special request to my supplier because you have been a good customer of
ours and we we would like to keep you as a customer if we can.

Please
let me know approx quantities and I will get things moving.

Thank you
for your email

Andrew


I replied:

Hi Andrew.

Thanks for getting back to me.

It's a bit difficult to
put a quantity on it as we won't know the
suitability of these until I test
them.

We can't use resistors as these are new cars covered by Peugeots
warranty
and that doesn't allow for any modification.

If they are
suitable then it will be up to individual members to order them
but I guess
I could get an order together but only if they test positively.

Will your
supplier provide you with two for testing purposes?

Allan.

If I can test a pair and they're ok then I may ask interested members to give me a promise to order as I don't know whether to advise him 10 pairs? 20? 30? or whatever...

 

[jonnyg30]

ive bought a cheapish set to test out. they only cost £14 for the pair so no biggy if there poop or don't work.

 

[allan40alt]

I've just had another reply:

Okay that's fine.

As far as I know the bulbs will still require the use
of a resistor or relay of some kind. The bulbs are only designed to eliminate
error messages. I'm not sure what to suggest really.

Kind
regards

Andrew


In view of his comments it might be better to wait and test your 'cheapo' set as I don't like the idea of fitting resistors whilst the cars are under warranty.

Al.

 

[allan40alt]

This demo of bulb Vs LED shows how much more positive the LED is:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVQBCf1z90E













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